Discussion on hosted service options at The Sleeter Group ASC 2012

Discussion on hosted service options at The Sleeter Group ASC 2012

Are you having a hard time understanding the best approach to hosting your business applications – wondering why it costs what it costs, and why some applications seem harder to get hosted than others?  While installing applications on your desktop seems pretty straightforward, it may seem like nothing short of rocket science to get an application installed with your hosting provider.  And, to make matters worse, a handy little software widget you just bought for $20 now means you must have your own entire virtual server just to run it in the cloud? What’s up with that?

There is a lot of confusion regarding application hosting services, what customers expect from them, and what service providers are reasonably able to deliver.  Unfortunately, software developers, customers and service providers are not always on the same page when it comes to trying to solve the problem or making it easier for businesses to adopt the service.

To attempt to address the issue, and to (hopefully) provide some clarity and guidance around the application hosting service model and its use in your business, I will be presenting a session on application hosting, including QuickBooks hosting, at the 2012 Accounting Solutions Conference, presented by the Sleeter Group and being held this year in Anaheim, California on October 22-24.  The discussion will include information on typical hosting provider models, as well as application issues and considerations businesses should be aware of when looking to have their software and systems delivered by a 3rd party.

In all fairness, I will not be recommending specific providers, nor will I suggest that any one provider is better than another.  Each hosting company has their own strengths and weaknesses, which is true with all businesses.  The focus of the session is helping attendees learn what they need to know to begin a basic evaluation of whether or not hosting of their applications makes sense, and to recognize those factors which will impact cost, performance, and usability.  Further, I’ll also be talking about how hosting isn’t a standalone solution, and how cloud-based applications and services may be combined with hosted application services to deliver the necessary functionality for the best value (“can you say chunkify!” to use a Doug-ism).

So, I guess you need to come to Anaheim in October to learn some stuff, and then take a day at Disneyland.

Make sense?

J

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Price Of The Cloud Still Out Of Reach For Small Businesses? Commercial QuickBooks Hosting Providers offer competitive pricing, but are still largely unknown.

Price Of The Cloud Still Out Of Reach For Small Businesses?

Price Of The Cloud Still Out Of Reach For Small Businesses?

Commercial QuickBooks Hosting Providers offer competitive pricing, but are still largely unknown.

In a recent article on Forbes.com, contributor Gene Marks contends that, for most small businesses, the most cost effective way to run their business IT is locally and not in the cloud.  The contention is that software features and functionality businesses demand isn’t yet available in affordable SaaS solutions, and outsourcing the hosting and management of desktop applications is more costly than doing it yourself.

Because the cost of a cloud solution like the one I have is still too high for most small businesses like mine!  The setup I have would normally run me about $100 per user per month.  Which means that a typical small business with a ten user network would be paying $12,000 per year.   Yes, you read that right.  It’s a great service.  But is it worth that much?  Not to my clients – all thirty of them who considered this option turned it down.  At least for now.  Forbes.com

http://www.forbes.com/sites/quickerbettertech/2012/01/23/price-of-the-cloud-still-out-of-reach-for-small-businesses/

What this author did not take in to account is the aggressive pricing model which evolved around the hosted QuickBooks desktop editions, and how the community of Authorized Commercial Hosts for QuickBooks offer “full meal deal” hosting of those business applications most small businesses know and love.  Because the QuickBooks desktop editions have such a large market of integrations, add-ons, plug-ins, etc. it was necessary for most of the hosting providers to accept hosting of a wide variety of these applications in order to get adoption of the hosted QuickBooks product with ProAdvisors and accountants as well as their clients.

One of the Authorized QuickBooks Hosting providers, Cloud9RealTime.com, offers both shared hosting of QuickBooks desktop applications and Microsoft Office, as well as virtual server environments where customers may run whatever mixture of desktop software solutions the business already has.  By allowing businesses to place all of their licensed products in a managed environment, where installation of software updates and helpdesk support is part of the service, it enables organizations to have the benefits of remote access and high availability service without having to build the capability themselves – and for a fraction of the cost.  Cloud9’s pricing model is far less than described in the article, with services for businesses being available for half (or less) than the $100 per user cited by the author.

The Authorized Host for QuickBooks program and community of providers seems to be fairly unknown amongst small businesses, but owners and managers should look more closely at providers like Cloud9RealTime.com and see what pricing and services are available.  It may change your mind, and show that the cloud isn’t out of reach for small businesses.

Make sense?

J

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Should you be paying sales tax on your cloud solution?

Should you be paying sales tax on your cloud solution?

There are a lot of undefined issues relating to whether or not sales taxes should be charged and collected on “cloud” services and online applications.  Traditional approaches aren’t quite right, because there isn’t a clear delineation of what is “service” versus “product”.  For example, an online storage service may be “service”, but when you are charged for bandwidth or other elements, it starts to be more product oriented and taxation may apply.  Online applications or cloud hosted software?  In some cases, the platform may be service, but the subscribed application may be taxable software.  It’s a clouded issue for service providers and their customers, alike.

‘Kelley Miller of the law firm Reed Smith, who specializes in technology law and specifically tracks how states have been enforcing cloud taxes, says it’s been a tough issue for states. The DOR says in its ruling that the market is evolving “at a rapid pace.” Traditionally tax laws just don’t work for this new era of cloud computing, she says, because there is not a tangible transaction of a disc or piece of hardware. Massachusetts seems to have echoed findings from other states though, she says. “The essence of the question is, are you buying software that people bought in a box at the store 10 or 15 years ago,” she says. If so, then Massachusetts, and other states, have claimed a right to tax it.’

A recent article on CIO.com discusses Massachusetts rulings on the subject, joining a number of other states in attempting to bring clarity to when cloud computing services should and should not be taxed.  The decisions sound almost as complicated as the underlying issues, so “clarity” obviously doesn’t mean simplicity.

Read the entire article here

Make Sense?

J

Cloud FAQs for CFOs: CFO.com

There’s an amazing article on CFO.com called Cloud FAQs for CFOs and every business owner, manager, accountant, CFO and CIO should read it.

Here is one of my favorite Q/As from the article:

“Q: But I’m a finance officer, not a technologist. Can you guarantee that the total cost of ownership for the cloud is lower than what I’m already spending for my on-premises IT?
That depends upon what you’re already spending. Do you know?

According to Forrester senior analyst Dave Bartoletti, most companies are not all that good at knowing how much it really costs to run an application because IT departments “are still seen as cost centers.” The company buys the servers, the storage, and the applications, and flips the switch. “What does it cost to run?” Bartoletti asks rhetorically. “Who knows? You just depreciate the assets over a certain amount of time and after they’re fully depreciated, you buy more.” Even organizations that account for staff costs, maintenance, energy — all the indirect spend that goes into producing a service the business needs to run — will probably not be able to cost out individual applications with any degree of accuracy. How much, for example, does your e-mail cost? “If your CIO can’t tell you it’s x, y, z, per box,” Hotels and Resorts CIO Mike Blake tells CFO, “that’s a problem.”

“Enterprises are making significant investments in cloud technology in pursuit of lower costs,” says Dave Zabrowski, founder and CEO of Cloud Cruiser, a provider of cost analytics for cloud consumers, but “if you can’t see what you’re spending, there’s a good chance you’re spending too much.”

And that problem, that financial black box, has been the bane of the finance officer’s life in the IT age. The cloud, if nothing else, presents an opportunity to open that black box”

 Read more on CFO.com (http://s.tt/1jGJU)

Make sense?

J

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Accountants and their Clients Online: Who Owns the Data?

Accountants and Clients Working Online: who owns the data?

Mobile device support and remote access to applications and data is becoming a standard requirement for most businesses today.  The “online” working model goes a long way towards addressing problems face when they need to get team members together no matter where they are.  When the information is stored and managed centrally, it is easier to provide access to outside accountants or other professionals.  Yet, while this collaborative working model solves numerous problems, it also introduces a number of issues that neither the business owner nor their outsourced professionals may have thought about.  One of these issues is the challenge represented with dissolution of the engagement, and subsequent division of information assets related to it.  This separation can become unfriendly and problematic if the parties do not have an agreed-to plan.  Quite frequently, disagreements result from the use of subscription-based online services which are not clearly delineated as customer-controlled versus provider-controlled.  In these cases, clients may benefit from the use of a service through their provider, not understanding that the provider ultimately owns or controls access to the solution and maybe even the data associated with the account.

In general, it is safe to take the approach that whoever pays the bill for the service is the owner of the data associated with it.  This “he who pays the bill owns the data” approach is simple and it makes the most sense.  Consider that the individual paying the bill for the services is the individual who is financially obligated for what occurs with the service, so it makes sense that they would have authority over service access and usage.

It is quite common in outsourced and online accounting models for a professional firm to subscribe to services or solutions which help them support various processing needs for their clients.  Solutions such as Bill.com or Paychex provide tools to assist professionals in efficient delivery of various process-support services, such as bill payments and approvals, or payroll processing and reporting.  These tools are utilized as part of the professional service offering, and are generally not directly exposed to the client users (other than in specific contexts, perhaps).  Separating the client from these systems is usually not difficult; the professional simply stops using the solution for that ex-client.   Since the transaction information from the solution ultimately integrates into the accounting data file, the accounting firm can simply return the accounting data file to the client without losing their process support data in the online service.  On the other hand, if the client was the subscriber to the solution and the accounting professional was “invited” to participate with them, the separation would mean that the accountant no longer had access to the online data, and the client would retain use of the solution.

In contrast to a process-supporting solution, separations become far more complicated when the online solution includes fundamental tools for the client like general business application access and data storage.  Consider that a business decides to use SmartVault for its document management needs, and also wants to connect documents and files directly to transactions in their QuickBooks accounting system.  In this situation, the accounting data and the document vault are closely connected, and contain a wide variety of valuable business documents and files.  When the solutions are both run as online services, where the QuickBooks applications are hosted along with the integration for SmartVault, both the accounting professional and their business client can work more closely and in real time, creating much more value in the relationship.  If the relationship does not work out, however, separating applications and data can be a frustrating process for both parties if there isn’t a clear understanding of who gets what.  It would be easier perhaps if the question centered on an accounting data file, but in these situations the problem extends to questions of ownership of source documents, working papers, and even application software licenses.

Accounting professionals need to protect the value of the work they perform on behalf of the client, and the business owner needs to have their business information and applications.  Clearly understanding how to orient subscription based services to protect the interests of both parties is an important element in providing the highest level of professional service to clients.  In some cases it makes sense for the professional to own and control the subscription, particularly if the service is an element which supports professional services delivery.  These tools help you provide services to your clients, and the client benefits from the result of use of the solution.  If the client leaves you, then it is up to them to “tool up” their own operations to handle those processes.

In other cases, it makes far more sense for the client business to own and control their online services, and invite their outside professionals to participate. The benefits of working together are still present, and the remote access and mobility aspects benefit the business owners and team members as much as their remote professionals.  The accounting professionals can preserve their working papers and other work product on their own systems, drawing a clear line between their retained data versus that of the client and making a potential future separation much easier to facilitate.

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Make sense?

J

Is great customer service the entire customer experience?

Is great customer service the entire customer experience?

I’ve been working with accounting technologies for a long time, and much of that time and activity has been focused on online accounting models and solutions.  The Authorized Hosting Program for QuickBooks is a good example of the type of service model that’s garnered a lot of attention over the past couple of years, particularly since desktop QuickBooks editions continue to be the accounting solutions of choice for new and growing small businesses, even as those businesses look to leverage the cloud for remote and mobile access to business information.  But hosted QuickBooks delivery models vary tremendously from provider to provider, so how does an accounting professional or their client business owner know which service will suite them best?

At the surface, most of the QuickBooks hosting services available today look pretty much alike.  In concept, they are, but in reality the technology each provider elects to deploy makes a big difference in the experience of the hosted service user.  Some deployment models require a lot of 3rd party software to make the service work, and some providers have constructed their own “black box” technology to make the delivery possible.  The result is a wide variety of service models and delivery approaches, some of which may perform better or offer more functionality than others.  But these details are often difficult to discern when evaluating the various provider deliveries, so most folks simply resort to pricing comparisons.  Unfortunately, this isn’t really the best way to measure the quality of the provider or the service.  There’s still some truth to the old adage that “you get what you pay for”, even when a service has become commoditized in the market.  On the other hand, just because a service is more expensive doesn’t mean it is better.

It is often difficult to get prospective customers to see or understand the technical  nuances of any given hosted delivery, so many service providers are trying to find other ways to set themselves apart from the competition.  One approach that’s become quite popular is to tout the availability and quality of the customer service offered by the provider.  While I do believe that quality customer service should be available for subscribers at all times, I also recognize a bit of a problem with this marketing approach.

To illustrate the problem, I’ll describe a conversation I had with a hosted client last year.

This particular client was with an engineering firm, and the company was subscribing to hosting services for a variety of Microsoft applications, including MS Project (not that it matters, really).  Anyway, this client called me up one day just to chat about something that was frustrating him, and that was an issue of irregular system performance.  Sometimes it was really speedy, and sometimes things would slow down to a crawl and nobody seemed to know why.  He said that he and his team members had been regularly in contact with the support department, and that the support team was always cheerful, helpful, and willing to work with them to find out what the issue might be.  Unfortunately, they didn’t find anything, and suggested that the client continue to contact them when there was a problem.  This went on for quite a number of months, and the client continued to be frustrated with the service performance but quite pleased with the support response.  Then he told me a story.

He said that he used to have a Mercedes, and he loved that car.  It was beautiful and fun to drive, and yes, pretty expensive.  The car had frequent issues, and for this reason he got to know the guys at the Mercedes dealership really well.  He knew all of their names, and they knew his.  He even sent them Christmas cards every year.  He couldn’t have wished for a nicer group of people to service his vehicle.

Then he bought a Toyota.  He really liked this new car, too.  It was fun to drive, sporty, and a little more affordable than the Mercedes was.  This car didn’t need nearly as much maintenance as the previous one, and he had far fewer problems with it.  He never got to know the names of the guys in the service department at the Toyota dealership, because he didn’t go there very often.  When he did, the service was fast and courteous – pretty much what he expected.  But the best part was that he didn’t become closely acquainted with the dealership service team, because the car just worked.

You know those car commercials on TV, where the sales person is telling the customer about how great the warranty on the vehicle is?  Yeah – the one where the customer wants to know if they should buy a good car, or buy a car with a good warranty.  Makes you think, doesn’t it?

When you’re looking for a hosting service provider to deliver QuickBooks and other desktop software to you via the cloud, remember that great customer service is only part of the puzzle.   The best solution is the one that just works, and doesn’t leave you needing a lot of support.

Are you on a first name basis with your hosting support team?  You might want to think about why that is.

Make sense?

J

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